Tucker, Augusta. Second Interview.
Hazel B. Greene Journalist
February 9, 1938
Interview with Augusta Tucker
Fort Towson, Oklahoma
I was born in 1867, at Indianapolis, Indiana. My father, Dr. O. N. Tucker, was born in South Carolina, but my mother, Sara Ann Apple Tucker, was born in Indiana.
My father, Dr. O.N. Tucker, was selected by the Choctaw council as a white physician to administer to the sick, wounded, etc., of Doaksville and the surrounding community. There were plenty of Indian Medicine Men, but some of the most progressive citizens thought that a man who had graduated from a Medical College should be more competent to care for the sick, so they held a meeting and decided to "import" a white doctor.
My father applied for the honor of being selected by the Council of the Choctaw Nation, and won the place, over the applications of several more, so he and his family of children some of us grown, moved over into the Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory, in January, I believe of 1884.Before coming to the Territory we had been living at Paris, Texas, to which state we had come from Indiana.
I, being one of the grown children, and being qualified to teach school, began doing that all over the country. I taught up north of Doaksville, I taught at Doaksville, and I taught a school on Scott Hill, which is now called Terry Hill at the west edge of the present town of Hugo. I also taught out at the Long Creek School, in the Turnbull neighborhood: that was about 3 miles northwest of the present town of Hugo. Then of course, there was no Hugo and Goodland was the railroad station. In those days, "the teacher" was considered pretty smart, simply because she knew enough to teach school, and she automatically became a leader in all social and religious activities.
She was suppose to lead the singing at the funerals; she was supposed to be always introducing new games at the parties of the neighborhood. She was called upon to write deeds and mortgages, and pioneer teachers in the Indian Territory frequently held Notary Public commissions.
Being "the teacher" was, I suppose, one of the reasons that Thomas E. Sanguine selected me to make notes for him at a meeting that was held at Goodland, and I believe that meeting was one of the first meetings of the Dawes commission to be held in the Choctaw Nation. Few who were there that day are living today. The party got off of the train at Goodland and walked about an eighth of a mile to a grove of trees, where benches and a speakers stand had been placed for the comfort and convenience of the people who would speak and listen to the speakers. I am not sure of the date of that meeting, but of course, it is a mater of history. I simply am calling attention to the fact that I was one of the many in attendance that day, and am one of the few who are living today. I am past seventy now.
Among those present whom I recall were: Bailey Spring, Thomas E. Sanguine, Green McCurtain, Willie W. Wilson, V. M. Locke Sr., Frank Ledbetter and I believe George Scott of Stigler was there. He is the son-in-law of Green McCurtain. The object of the speeches was to persuade the Choctaw Indians of the advisability of individual allotment of the Indian Lands. I made notes of all of the speeches that were made that day, but unfortunately I never kept them. I imagine that they are on record somewhere.
I remember, especially one old "Snake" Indian, Ben. He had ridden his little pony all the way from away up in the sand hills in Cedar County, to be at that meeting and represent his community. But he was never convinced that individual allotments were the best thing for the Indians. Poor old fellow, he was so old then that he looked pitiful after his long ride. He lived to be nearly a hundred years old and dropped dead after a ride of about twenty miles on his little pony to attend a funeral of a granddaughter.
Note: a picture of Miss Augusta Tucker is on this page.
Miss Augusta Tucker lives nine miles north and a little west of Fort Towson at High Hill.
Transcribed & submitted by Doris Dykes email@example.com